Piranha Ironworker Models Compared: P50, P65, P90, P110, P140, PII-88, and PII-140

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Ian Jones Sales (IJS) lists seven Piranha ironworker models for the Canadian metal fabrication market: P50, P65, P90, P110, P140, PII-88, and PII-140. The published site content describes all seven as sharing the same core feature set — urethane stripping, automatic shear hold-downs, quick-change tooling, low blade rake angles, six standard work stations, and an ergonomic design with clear lines of sight to all tools, including shear blades. The model numbers themselves are the main differentiator shown, and they follow a numeric progression that typically signals increasing capacity, with the PII-88 and PII-140 forming a separate series. Because the site does not publish tonnage, capacity, or dimensional specifications for any model, the comparison below is limited to what the source actually states, plus the selection logic you can apply once you confirm specs with IJS directly.

What all seven models share

Per the IJS product listings, every model — from the P50 through the PII-140 — carries the same described feature set:

  • Urethane stripping — supports clean part removal after shearing or punching.
  • Automatic shear hold-downs — hold material during the shear stroke.
  • Quick-change tooling — intended to reduce changeover time between operations.
  • Low blade rake angles — associated with reduced distortion when shearing.
  • Six standard work stations — the machine is set up for multiple operations without reconfiguring the whole frame.
  • Ergonomic design and clear lines of sight — the operator can see the tools, including the shear blades, from the working position.

If your decision is driven by these features, the model choice does not change them. What changes is the size and capacity class implied by the model number.

How the model numbers line up

The listings fall into two naming groups:

Group Models What the naming suggests
P series P50, P65, P90, P110, P140 A single progression, with numbers increasing across the range
PII series PII-88, PII-140 A separate series, with the "II" prefix and its own two numbers

Within the P series, the ascending numbers (50 → 65 → 90 → 110 → 140) read as a size or capacity ladder. That is the conventional way ironworker model numbers are used in the industry, but the IJS page does not state what the numbers measure, so treat the ordering as a sequence to confirm rather than a specification.

The PII-88 and PII-140 sit outside that ladder. The "II" designation marks them as a distinct line, and the fact that a PII-140 exists alongside a P140 means the two are not simply the same machine under a different label. What separates the PII line from the P line is not described in the source material.

Choosing between them

Because the published content gives no tonnage, throat depth, stroke, or capacity figures, you cannot select a model from the website alone. The practical approach:

  1. Start with the operation you do most. If you mainly punch and shear angle, flat bar, and plate at a known thickness, that thickness and material set your minimum capacity requirement.
  2. Use the P-series order as a first filter. If your work sits at the light end, the lower-numbered models are the natural starting point; heavier or thicker work points toward the higher numbers. Confirm the actual rating before committing.
  3. Ask what the PII series adds. Since PII-88 and PII-140 are presented as a separate line, ask IJS what the "II" designates — a different frame, a different tooling system, a different control arrangement, or a different capacity range. This is the single biggest gap in the public information.
  4. Confirm the six work stations cover your operations. All models list six standard stations, but which stations and what tooling fits each is not published. Match the station list to your actual cut-and-punch mix.
  5. Verify tooling and parts availability for the specific model. IJS describes itself as offering sales, service, parts, and tooling to the Canadian market, so parts and tooling support is part of the offering — confirm lead times and stock for the model you pick.

What to ask IJS before deciding

The website answers "what features do these machines have" but not "which one do I need." Bring these questions to IJS:

  • What tonnage and capacity does each model (P50 through P140, PII-88, PII-140) carry?
  • What distinguishes the PII series from the P series?
  • Which work stations are standard on each model, and what tooling fits them?
  • What are the footprint, power requirements, and weight for each?
  • What is current availability, lead time, and pricing for the model that fits my work?

Bottom line

All seven Piranha ironworkers listed by Ian Jones Sales are described with an identical feature set, so the choice comes down to size class and series. The P50–P140 numbers form an ascending sequence, and the PII-88 and PII-140 form a separate line whose distinction is not explained on the site. Use the model order to narrow the range, then get the actual capacity figures and the PII-versus-P explanation from IJS before you commit — the public page does not contain enough specification detail to make the final call on its own.