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What is SwiNOG?
SwiNOG is a Swiss network operators' community: an informal, non-political forum for the people who design and operate the Swiss Internet. It has no membership fees and no lobbying role — participation effectively means joining the mailing list and showing up to meetings.
What it actually does
- Meetings: Roughly one to two per year, held in Berne and other Swiss locations. The format is a single-track day of operator talks plus a hallway track and long social events, open to everyone. Meeting #42 is listed for October 20–21, 2026, at the Enter Technikmuseum.
- Mailing list:
[email protected], described as low traffic and high signal, with discussion of outages, peering, MTU issues and fibre cuts. Subscribing is what membership means here. Related lists cover anti-spam and job postings. - Public archive: Every meeting since SwiNOG #1 (Berne, 18 October 2000) has slides, and most have recordings. Recent #41 talks covered network automation frameworks, vendor-agnostic end-to-end testing with Netlab, EVPN gateways for multi-domain fabrics, ASPA and RPKI-based AS-path validation, and 25 years of SwissIX.
Who it suits
If you run, design or operate networks in Switzerland — ISP, hosting, enterprise, research or vendor side — SwiNOG is the practical place to compare notes with peers who face the same peering, routing and operational problems. It is less useful if you want formal certification, vendor sales pitches or advocacy.
How to start
Read the public archive first to see whether the talk level matches yours, then subscribe to the mailing list and watch for the call for papers ahead of the next meeting. Attending one meeting is the fastest way to judge the fit; the social side is deliberately a large part of it.
For broader context, comparable operator forums exist elsewhere, such as RIPE NCC for European-level meetings and policy work.
How can I join the SwiNOG mailing list and what are the subscription requirements?
Joining SwiNOG means subscribing to its mailing list: the site describes subscribing as "what membership means around here." There are no membership fees, and the community is explicitly non-political and not a lobby, so there is no application, vetting or dues process to clear. It is hosted on Mailman 3, and its archives are public on Hyperkitty.
How to subscribe
- Go to SwiNOG and use the subscribe form on the mailing list section: enter your email address and submit.
- You will then confirm via the usual Mailman email confirmation step.
- Choose the right list for your purpose:
swinog— the main list; operational discussion such as outages, peering, MTU and fibre cuts. Described as low traffic, high signal.swinog-antispam— a working group list for spam-related topics.swinog-jobs— job postings.
Practical notes
- The main list has 1k+ subscribers, so expect a mix of quiet weeks and bursts when something breaks.
- Because the archives are public, treat anything you post as on the record.
- If you are deciding whether it is worth it: subscribe if you operate or design Swiss networks and want peer-level operational detail between meetings. If you only want conference slides, the meeting archive is the better starting point and requires no subscription.
SwiNOG also holds in-person meetings roughly one to two times a year, mostly in Berne, and the next is listed as #42 on 20–21 October 2026 at Enter Technikmuseum. Attending is a separate step from list membership and is described as open to everyone.
What happens at a typical SwiNOG meeting and who should attend?
SwiNOG meetings are single-track, operator-focused gatherings: a day of talks, a hallway track, and a long social event, held about twice a year in Berne and occasionally elsewhere in Switzerland. The format is deliberately informal — no membership, no political or lobbying agenda, and no fees — which shapes both the content and the crowd.
What a typical meeting looks like
- Talks: one track, so you don't choose between parallel sessions. Recent topics at SwiNOG #41 included network automation frameworks, vendor-agnostic end-to-end testing with Netlab, scaling multi-domain EVPN fabrics, ASPA and RPKI-based AS-path validation, and 25 years of SwissIX peering. In other words: routing, peering, operations, automation and testing — the working concerns of people who run networks.
- Hallway track: the conversations between and around talks, where peering disputes, MTU oddities and fibre cuts get discussed in person rather than on a list.
- Social events: described as long, and treated as a real part of the programme rather than an afterthought.
- Archive: every meeting since SwiNOG #1 (Berne, 18 October 2000) has public slides, and most have recordings — useful if you want to judge the level before committing to a trip.
Who should attend
- Network engineers and operators at ISPs, carriers, hosting providers, enterprises and research networks — the core audience.
- Peering and interconnection people, given the recurring SwissIX and peering content.
- Automation and tooling engineers working on network infrastructure.
- Newcomers to the Swiss operator scene who want a low-friction entry point: no membership, no fee, open to everyone.
- Vendors and researchers are present in the programme (talks at #41 came from OpsMill, Zebbra AG, modus one ag with Arista Networks, and SwissIX), but the framing is operator-to-operator rather than a sales floor.
If you're deciding whether it's worth your time, a practical test: read two or three talks from the most recent meeting in the public archive. If those match problems you're currently solving, the meeting is for you; if they're adjacent to your work but not close, the mailing list is the cheaper first step.
Between meetings
The mailing list is where the community actually lives day to day — low traffic but high signal, covering outages, peering, MTU issues and fibre cuts. Subscribing is effectively what membership means here. There are also working-group and jobs lists (anti-spam, job postings) alongside the main list, so you can pick the firehose level you want.
Practical next step
The next meeting is SwiNOG #42, planned for 20–21 October 2026 at the Technikmuseum, with a call for papers open. If you have operational experience worth sharing, submitting a talk is the fastest way to become part of the room rather than a spectator. Otherwise, join the mailing list first and watch how a topic develops from a list thread into a conference talk — that's the clearest signal of whether the in-person meeting adds value for you.
Where can I find slides and recordings from past SwiNOG meetings?
The slides and recordings from past SwiNOG meetings are in SwiNOG's own public archive, linked from SwiNOG. Every meeting since SwiNOG #1 (Berne, 18 October 2000) has slides, and most meetings also have recordings. The archive is open to anyone — you don't need to subscribe or join anything to browse it.
How to get there
- Go to SwiNOG.
- Look for the archive section (referenced as "Full archive") and pick the meeting number you want.
- Open the individual talk listing for that meeting to get the slides, and the recording where one exists.
What you'll find, by meeting
The archive is organised per meeting rather than by topic, so the practical approach is to scan a meeting's talk list and open only what's relevant to you. Recent examples from SwiNOG #41 (28 April 2026) show the range:
- Network automation — "The Network Automation Map: Navigate Your Journey with the NAF Automation Framework" (Damien Garros, OpsMill)
- Testing — "Building a Vendor-Agnostic E2E Testing Ecosystem with Netlab" (Leandro Lerena & Andy Griesbeck, Zebbra AG)
- Data centre fabrics — "EVPN Unleashed: Scaling Multi-Domain Fabrics with EVPN Gateways" (Remi Locherer, modus one ag with Arista Networks)
- Routing security — "An Introduction to ASPA – Validating AS-Paths with the help of RPKI" (Max Stucchi, SwiNOG)
- Peering history — "25 Years of SwissIX – A Quarter Century of Peering in Switzerland" (Arist Volger, SwissIX)
A realistic scenario
Suppose you're an ISP network engineer who has just inherited BGP peering responsibilities and wants to understand route-origin validation before your next change window. Rather than reading vendor documentation first, you could open the ASPA/RPKI talk from #41 for the Swiss operator perspective on why path validation matters, then go back through older meetings for the peering and outage-related talks that come up repeatedly in this community. Cross-checking the slides against the recording is useful when a slide is dense with diagrams.
Decision criterion
Use the archive when you want depth on a specific operational topic and are willing to spend 30–60 minutes per talk. If you need a quick answer to a live problem, the mailing list is the faster route — the archive is a reference library, not a support channel.
How do I submit a talk or propose a logo for an upcoming SwiNOG event?
SwiNOG handles talk submissions and logo proposals through separate calls, both opened from its website. The site currently lists SwiNOG #42 as upcoming (October 20–21, 2026, at Enter Technikmuseum) with a Call for Papers and a separate logo call.
Submitting a talk
- Look for the CFP for #42 link on the site and submit your talk there.
- The format is a single-track day of operator talks, plus hallway track and social events — so talks tend to be practical, operator-focused sessions rather than marketing pitches.
- Past #41 talks give a good sense of scope: network automation (NAF framework), vendor-agnostic end-to-end testing with Netlab, EVPN gateways for multi-domain fabrics, ASPA/RPKI AS-path validation, and 25 years of SwissIX peering.
- If your topic fits that world — routing, peering, operations, tooling, outages, measurement — it's likely a fit. Check the public archive of 41 meetings for slide and recording formats before writing your abstract.
Proposing a logo
- Use the Submit a logo link on the site.
- The page is explicit: no AI-generated submissions. A hand-made, considered proposal is what they're asking for.
- If you don't design yourself, the site invites you to pass the call on to someone who does.
Choosing which to do
| Goal | Route | Notes |
|---|---|---|
| Share operational experience | CFP for #42 | Single-track talk, operator audience |
| Contribute design work | Logo call | Human-made proposals only |
| Neither, but want to stay involved | Mailing list | Subscribing is effectively membership |
A practical next step: if you're unsure whether your topic suits the programme, subscribe to the mailing list first and read a few weeks of traffic — outages, peering, MTU and fibre-cut threads show exactly what the community argues about, which is usually what makes a good talk. The list is low-traffic and publicly archived, so you can gauge fit before committing to an abstract.
For the wider Swiss operator scene, SwiNOG is the entry point; its archive and list are the fastest way to calibrate a submission.
What topics are typically discussed on the SwiNOG mailing list?
The SwiNOG mailing list is the day-to-day channel of a Swiss network-operators community, so discussions lean toward what breaks, changes or gets built in production networks rather than broad academic theory. The site describes it as "low traffic, high signal," and lists outages, peering, MTU and fibre cuts as typical subjects — the kind of operational issues that need a quick answer from someone who has seen the same failure.
Expect threads in a few recurring buckets:
- Incident and troubleshooting chatter: outages, routing oddities, MTU and fragmentation problems, fibre cuts, and "has anyone else seen this?" reports.
- Interconnection and peering: peering arrangements, exchanges such as SwissIX, and the practical side of keeping traffic local.
- Routing security and validation: RPKI, ASPA and AS-path validation come up, mirroring talks like "An Introduction to ASPA – Validating AS-Paths with the help of RPKI."
- Automation and tooling: network automation frameworks and vendor-agnostic testing approaches, as seen in recent SwiNOG talks on the NAF automation framework and Netlab.
- Jobs and anti-spam: the community runs separate lists for job postings and anti-spam work, so those topics have dedicated homes rather than cluttering the main list.
If you are deciding whether to subscribe, treat the list as an operational peer group: useful if you run or design Swiss networks and want fast, experienced answers; less useful if you need vendor support contracts or formal standards work. A practical next step is to read the public archive before posting, so your first message matches the list's tone and level of detail. The main list is at [email protected], hosted on Mailman 3 with a public Hyperkitty archive; related lists cover anti-spam and job postings. For meeting talks and slides, see SwiNOG.
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